Sacco, Carts & Wagons


Sacco Cart

When I first got started with my first German Shepherd Sled Dog, my dream was to have a three dog German Shepherd Sled Dog Team. I also had wanted a Two Dog Sacco Cart Team.

I owned two German Shepherd Dogs (GSD or GSDs) at the time Sacco Carts came out on the market in the USA. My dogs were already pulling Carts, Wagons, Rigs, and Sleds. When I saw that Sacco Cart for the first time! I fell in LOVE! I wanted one so badly. But they cost $2500 in the early 1990's.

I first saw one at an "upscale" Pet Store near where I worked and lived. After seeing them in person, oh, I wanted one more! The pet store had a video it was playing of Two German Shepherd Dogs pulling the Sacco Cart on all types of terrain. I was sooooooo hooked. (see video below)

So when I saw those two beautiful GSDs pulling the Sacco Cart in that video I so wanted to own a Sacco Cart and get my dogs running in front of it!

Here is what I believe was the video that was running in the Pet Store behind where the Sacco Cart was sitting....and yes, you could sit on the Sacco Cart they had on display...and I did. The second video shows a good example of just where you can take a Sacco Cart. Trust me, you are going to want to own a Sacco Cart too.

As I have said on other pages, we lost our old photos and my 50 years worth of collecting Breed, Species, and Training Books (hundreds of books) to black mold in WI. It is heartbreaking not to have the photos of the animals we loved. It breaks my heart not to have photos of my GSD, as well as our Alaskan Malamute, our Labrador Retrievers and Siberian Huskies photos pulling me the many, many, 100's of miles in my Sacco type cart.

Not only can this type of cart SCOOT! It is so much fun. I jumped lots of Subdivision Street Curves with mine, I have seen people go up and down steps with their Sacco Carts. It is just such fun!

I did race using the Sacco Cart (and won), and I was racing Labrador Retrievers at that time.

If you have one or two trained dogs and want to get out and have a lot of fun, if you can find a Sacco Cart or Cart made the same way, the dogs are easy to train to pull it and they will love running in front of one! Just be sure to use the correct type of harness and make sure your brakes are working on your cart before you take off down the trail.....and your feet? Many times I used mine like Fred Flinstone cartoons!

Multipurpose Dog Harness Balck Snow Camo

I actually designed a Multipurpose Harness for my Sacco Cart. I had gone out on the first day for a ride. I hooked my two Labrador Retrievers in. Each of the Labs were wearing a "D" type Harness.....and when I whistled for them to pull, they jumped right out of their "D" Style Harnesses. There I was sitting in the Cart, with two harnesses swinging on the shafts. I whistled and the dogs came right back. I went into the house and down to my Sewing Machine. I am a Harness Maker by trade and was at the time. I knew right away, or thought of it on the way down the stairs, the type harness I wanted to make.

I designed my Multipurpose Harness so that my Labs could pull a boat in the lake near our home. I wanted the snap on top just in case they might become hung up on anything under water. I also wanted it to be able to pull a sled or rig or scooter or anything with four wheels and shafts. This type harness has worked very well for us for many years now.....as well as for satisfied customers.


Cart & Wagon Dogs

The first thing I ever had a dog pull, was Tamar, my first German Shepherd Dog, pulling a small cart made from a child's wagon trailer with the tongue cut off and shafts welded to it. I was sooooo proud of my dog and cart! That is also when I started making my own harnesses for dogs. Later I designed a Multi-Purpose Harness for dogs that had a better neck collar than the "D" type, that a person could use with a boat in the water with a quick release up on top of the harness, and one that could be used for everything but a cart. A Cart, two wheeled vehicle, needs a more stable, more straps, type of harness.

I mention harnesses because for a dog to safely pull a cart or wagon, they need the right type of well/correct fitting harness, the type for the job. One harness is not the same as another.

Tamar pulled that little cart many miles. She learned her Sled Dog Commands pulling that little cart. My kids all rode behind her and had fun doing it. I have said before on other pages. I did not have a lot of photos of my first Three German Shepherd Dogs and those that I did, were ruined, destroyed in black mold in N WI. I soooo wish I had those photos to hold and to show off.

That same little Red Cart, taught a lot of dogs to pull in shafts, in harness.

Dogs should be trained and conditioned well before adding heavy weights or long trips for the dog to pull. Start with an empty load, and pull only a short way. Do this over many days before moving on to having your dog help around the farm bringing in loads of firewood.

Dogs LOVE to learn to work in harness. My dogs all got/get excited when I get out the harnesses and other equipment.

Your wagon for your dog does not have to cost a fortune. You might even have an older wagon in your own garage you could convert. If not, ask friends, got to Garage Sales, and if not there, go to a Hardware Store and buy one of those nicely made Garden Wagons. These are very popular for dogs to pull, and they can hold a good load.

NEVER, EVER! DO NOT! NEVER HAVE YOUR DOG PULL A WAGON OR OTHER VEHICLE BY IT'S COLLAR. This is very dangerous and could crush your dog's tracheal (wind pipe). Also, NEVER have your dog pull a wagon with the handle or by the handle. The handle can and often does come up and hit the dog in the rear. Not only could this really hurt and or scare your dog, you will ruin the dog from ever wanting to pull again. When using the handle, a wagon is far more likely to tip over too.

PLEASE BE SAFE AND USE THE CORRECT EQUIPMENT IN GOOD REPAIR WHEN WORKING YOUR DOG!

Teaching Your Dog To Pull A Wagon

Copyright 2003, Marna Kazmaier

montanawood.jpgWhen teaching your dog to pull a wagon you need to start with the right equipment. I use one of the following three types of harnesses on the dog. 1) A harness that I designed that has a siwash front, cart type harness that ends half way down the dogs torso with a snap up on top for quick release. I call it a Multipurpose or Cart Harness. This harness has "rings" on each side that hook into the shafts of the wagon. 2) A modified freight or weigh pull harness that has rings on each sides. The front of the wagon, usually by chain is hooked to the back of this harness, each side of the harness has rings that are hooked to the wagon shafts. 3) A "D" harness. This is the same type of harness that people walk dogs with, only the type that I use are from 1" to 2" wide and padded with polar fleece, lambs skin or fake fur fleece. It also has metal rings sewn in on each side. The last harness mentioned is my least favorite of the three, but as I always say, whatever safely works for you. Also needed is a wagon in good repair and the right size for you dog. A wagon too large for your dog will be too heavy and overwhelming for the dog; a wagon that is too small for the dog will be too light weight and look bad on the dog.

Any type of harness that you choose to use to teach your dog to pull a wagon or a vehicle with shafts must have rings or loops on each side of the harness. The rings, when attached to the sides of your wagon, become your "brakes" when stopping and also "slow the load" on down hills. The rings on the harness of the dog hooked to the shafts also become the steering for your wagon.

A recreational or an x-back harness will not be safe for this type of pulling, as this type of harness would "pull" forward when the dog stopped. This will cause the harness to either pull up on the dog or come completely off the dog, it will also allow the wagon to hit the dog in the rear.

Make sure that the wagon you are using is in good repair. Check the axles and the tires to make sure everything is working properly. Check to make sure that the "tub" is safely attached to the frame. If you are thinking of painting the wagon, now (before you convert it for your dog) would be the best and easiest time to do it.

The wagon should be modified with shafts. Take the handle off the front of the wagon and add a "U" shaped device that will fit around your dog...you can bend 1/2" or larger conduit for this, or make it out of PVC piping or wood. At the end of the "U" shaped device, now called shafts, about 3" in toward the wagon add snaps. These are what you hook into the rings on the dog's harness.

After you have your wagon ready, and a good fitting harness for pulling, put the harness on the dog and attach a leash on the dog's collar. With the dog leash in one hand and the wagon in YOUR other hand go for a walk. In other words DO NOT HOOK THE DOG TO THE WAGON for your first couple of times out. This will allow the dog to see and hear the wagon and not be spooked while tied into it in harness. If this goes well do it again the same way the next day.

After a couple of walks or as many walks like this as it takes until your dog does not care about the wagon, hook the dog into the wagon shafts. DO NOT ADD A CHILD to the wagon!! Take the dog for a short walk, MAKE A BIG DEAL out of the dog pulling and encourage the dog with treats and verbal praise as you walk along. After a few good walks like this you could then add a small child or a light load. If your dog will be hauling firewood or the like, you will want to increase the dog?s load slowly over several days or weeks. Let the dog muscle up for the work. It would be very discouraging for the dog for you to add a huge and hard to pull load the first few times (or days) the dog came out to work for you.

Now the fun begins, start buying and making decorations for parades in your home town! Before you enter your dog in a Parade, take your dog to a couple of Parades as a spectator. Let is see the bands, the horses, and all the excitement.

wagon1.jpgSome people do hook their dogs to wagons with the handle still attached to it with a recreational harness, BUT! this is not safe for your dog or for your legs, WHAT EVER YOU DO NOT LET THE WAGON (or any load) HIT THE DOG IN THE REAR!! Going downhill with this set up is going to be a problem, you need someone in the wagon to drag their feet down hill so that the wagon does not hit the dog (the dragging noise will probably scare the dog). You could have another adult in the rear of the wagon with a rope tied around the rear axle to hold the wagon back. The shafts on the wagon are the best way to train and have a dog to pull a wagon.

A few inexpensive places to look for a child?s wagon... Do you have a wagon in your own garage that your own child has outgrown? Do you know someone who might have a wagon that their child has outgrown? You may also want to check neighborhood garage sales and thrift shops in your area. Antique stores usually have some pretty KOOOL wagon's in BIG dog size, but expect to pay more then the wagon is probably worth, and be prepared to do some or even a bunch of repairs to an older wagon.

Frankie Pulling A Wagon
I can only tell you what has worked for my husband Deron and I training not only several of our own dogs to pull wagons and carts, but teaching other's dogs as well. We have trained SEVERAL different breeds of dogs and this method works for all the breeds we have trained. All the dogs in the photos on this site are our dogs (past and present). The photo to the right is of Frankie, a one year old Cocker Spaniel in training, this was his fourth section with the wagon.

I CAN NOT be held responsible for any accidents or injuries you and or your dog may occur as you train. Each dog and trainer are different. Be safe, be fair, take it slow and make it fun for the dog.

Making Metal Shafts For Dog's Wagon

Most of us can come up with a wagon for our dogs to pull. I have found that for an averaged sized dog a wagon from the Hardware Store is a great buy. The ones I like are the expanded metal wagons with nematic wheels that has sides that come off or fold down. The bed of this type wagon is approx. 2' x 4', large and strong enough for adult to ride in comfortably (yes, a large adult). This type of wagon sells for less then $100 and is very easy to convert for goats/dogs to pull. They are built tough and will last a lifetime if well cared for.

Wagons can also be found at Garage Sales, Flea Markets, Thrift Stores and your own garage. Or ask a friend with older children and they may just give you one that their children outgrew.

Then there is the problem of shafts, you can't just buy those anywhere. You can buy them from some dog suppliers, but in my opinion the shipping alone is enough to make you shutter.

There are many ways you can make your own shafts for a goat/dog wagon. They can be made out of wood, PVC pipe, plumbing pipes, or other clever materials. I like to make ours out of 1/2" metal conduit that is 10' long. I say "I like to make", when I really mean "supervise" my husband making the shafts. LOL

The conduit shafts that I use are actually all one piece. This makes it strong and easy to store. The shafts each have a dog leash snap bolted in from the front toward the wagon at approx. 12" that the dog will be hooked into. The shaft system is easily hooked to the wagon with a 3" cotter pin. Your dog will pull forward with the shafts and the goats butt strap becomes the brake for the wagon when hooked into the wagon correctly and with not too much slack.

To make metal shafts for your wagon you will need:.

10' metal conduit
one small 1/2" plumbers T piece
one small 1/2" plumbers T that will fit into where your wagon handle come out of
connector for the two T pieces so that they fit together back to back
one 3" cotters pin
two 2" eye bolts
two nuts to fit bolts
1/2 washers with middle to fit bolts
two 3" dog leash snaps (we use brass with the spring opening
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something to bend the conduit with like a tree or conduit bender
two 1/2 corks or plastic chair railcovers
Electric drill
pliers
screw driver

Optional:

conduit bender


If you want the wagon to be useful for your dogs also then you will also need.
Because dogs would wear a different type of harness you need a chain in the back with two snaps.

1 - 2 foot of dog chain new or in good repair
two 3" dog leash snaps (again, we use brass with spring opening)
one small eye bolt with nut to fit it

Mark the 10' metal conduit in the middle with a permanent marker then mark it approx 6" - 8" on either side of the middle mark. Slide a metal 1/2" small plumbing T unto the conduit before bending the shafts into place. Either bend the conduit with a conduit bender or wrap it around a tree. You do not have to use a fat tree, just bend one side at a time. Bend so that the shafts are even at the ends. If they do not come out quite even you can use a hack saw to "make it so".

Mark each side of your shafts in from the front (the open end) at 12" and drill a hole in the conduit so that a snap can be added in an upright position. If you have a long bodied dog make your holes closer to the end so that the animal has rear leg reach. Drill the holes and place a washer on each side under the eye bolt. Fasten the nut and tighten down. Open the end of the eye bolt (just a bit) and add snap. Close eye bolt.

Your second T piece will somehow have to be connected to the first T piece. In our case we used a T connector. Because I am not sure what size second T you will need to fit your wagon I can not spell this part out for you.

The back side of the second T, or the top of the T fits into your wagon where the handle comes out and is connected to your wagon with a cotter pen. The cotter pen will make it easy for storage or travel so that you can remove the shafts quickly. We carry an extra cotter pen with us....just in case.

Place corks into or plastic covers on each end of conduit shaft. This will save your legs from gashes when training.

Now if you want this wagon to be used with dogs too.....drill the T and conduit in the center of the back part of the U in the middle. Open this eye bolt and add one of the remaining two dog leash snaps. Close eye bolt. This can ride like this with no problems while using the wagon for your goat. Now on one end of your chain add the other dog leash snap. When using the wagon for your dog add the chain to the snap that is hanging from the T. Now clip the other end of the chain with the other snap to the back of the dogs harness. The chain gives you adjustability so that different sized dogs can use the wagon correctly.

NEVER use a Recreational or X-Back harness on a dog with a wagon. Never hook anything to your dog's collar and have the dog pull by it.

If you do not convert the wagon shafts for a dog you will still need the eye bolt or bolt to hold the shafts in place on the T piece.

When you remove the handle from your wagon save it!! You never know when you might need it for something. Put your bolt and nut back into the handle so that you will know right where it is when you go for the handle. With using the cotter pen to attach your goat/dog shafts it only takes a minute for change over.

This is what has worked for us. We can not be held responsible for anyone else's workmanship. PLEASE make sure everything is tightened down securely before adding your animals into the shafts to pull. We also can not be held responsible for your animals ability, training or safety.

ENTERING YOUR DOG, PULLING A WAGON, IN A PARADE OR OTHER EVENT

Before you enter in a Parade or other event with your dog pulling a wagon, there may be a couple of things you need to know.

First of all, what a dog does well at home it may or may not do well out in public and remember the excitement, noise and atmosphere at a parade or event. There is much going on, there will be many animals (some your dog may have never seen before), and the loud loud music, sirens and people.

Many of us have been to watch a parade and thought, "Boy, I would love to be in the parade with my dog". Being in a parade with your dog is fun, exciting and requires a certain amount of PATIENCE, some times an over abundance of patience.

You don't just get up the morning of the parade and go join in the line up. The first thing you must do is prepared the dog. If you dog lives in the City or County this will help. I live in the country now, and **might** get four cars on our Road a day (I love it) but the dogs do not get much socialization, and cars in the nearby town worry some of them. You may be laughing at this but remember, most of you don't have horses and/or marching band coming by your houses either. My dogs on the other hand are used to the horses and loud music......let's just say I like the music "pumped up" loud in the truck. I am an old Rock and Roller.

So, now you get my point.....there is A LOT in a parade that a dog must see and hear before entering and being freaked out by it....no one wants to see a scared, cowering dog walking IN a parade.

Not only do you need to get the dog used to the sounds and sites around it, but lots and lots of loud people, as well as the "get up" that the dog will be "wearing"....backpack, cart, wagon, clothes, hats......

The best thing to do, I believe, is to TAKE your dog to a couple of parades and try to get a front row seat. Let the dog have fun, and DON'T let the dog bark at ANY entry in the parade you are attending. Stay calm with the dog and keep the dog calm.

Take treats and water for distraction and for rewards. We also let our dog have a couple of well chosen pieces of candy that was thrown from the parade. Don't let strange people pet your dog if your dog is uptight about the parade. (you can interpret "strange people" for yourselves).

By taking your dog out to train, away from your home, you will also know ahead of time know if everything (wagons, rig, scooter, ect) will fit in your vehicle.

Make sure your dog is comfortable wearing, pulling, pushing or whatever you are going to have the dog do in the parade. Take whatever it is your dog is going to be doing in the parade to a crowed park and practice, not just once, several times over several days long before the parade day. Don't forget treats, poop bags and water.

When you call the Parade Committee about joining in the march, tell them you have a dog, or a dog group, and ask them not to place you directly behind horses or directly in front of Marching bands...remind them of a dogs acute hearing. You also want to tell them before they tell you, that you will be carrying poop bags to pick up after your dogs.

The day of the parade now fast is approaching. Get all your things together. You will need a leash, training collar, water, bowl, treats, a copy of your rabies vaccine registration, and don't forget to wear comfortable shoes and nice or silly clothes. I'm am sure you have seen people in parades and you wonder "What were they thinking?" Here they have this beautiful dog, groomed to the teeth, spotless carts, backpacks, wagons, whatever....and the person looks like sh.....well you know. Not groomed, dirty clothes.... Not only do you worry about how the dog and vehicle looks, and this may mean a new paint job on that rig, but also yourselves. Comfortable clothes a must....barn clothes a no no!! Dress to the theme of the parade. Some parades require paper work to be carried, or numbers to be worn....don't forget that either.

Decorating your dog, wagon, rig, ect to the theme of the Parade is half the fun......but be careful. Don't use glass Christmas Ornaments, if they would come apart, or drop off your vehicle and break on the ground your dog or another animal might cut their foot or eat it. If you decide you want bells on your dog's harness, sewing them on with thread will NOT hold them on your harness, they will fall off as you are walking along with the dog. Use dental floss and sew around the bell many times. Recheck your bells each time you use it. Weaving the bells into the webbing is best. Be careful putting anything on your dog that might spook the dog, and just like the item being pulled, you need a practice run with your decor too. One more thing.....poop bags in your pocket. Take at least two more then you think you might need...trust me on this one.

If you are walking with a dog club you will want to make or have a Club Banner made with the club name and maybe a phone number or website address. You also may want to make up fliers or business cards with club information to hand out to folks (and there will be some) that are interested in joining your group......nice way to literally pick up members, ey?

The more organized and professional you look the more likely you will be invited back to participate in this and other Parades. Many times there are prizes for best Parade Entrant.

If you do decide to hand out candy or dog treats to the "watchers", be VERY aware of what your dog is seeing at his view at your knee high surroundings. Walking up to strange dogs with your dog in custom or pulling a wagon, ect, is really NOT a good idea. A fight could erupt. Also watch children walking up to the blind side of your dog....children can be in your dogs face FASSSSST!! Even the calmest of dogs are stressed under Parade conditions, you will be held legally responsible for any action your dog takes.

A warning on training collars: We live in a strange world where folks (read peta) does not like to see a dog working. If you own a short haired dog (any dog really) try to train your dog to wear a nylon webbing slip training collar. I know and you know that a choke or pinch collar is not going to hurt the dog (in the right hands) but the public is a funny group.....why start trouble. Besides, we want to keep our dogs marching in parades and if someone complains to the Town Chairperson about the "torture item used on the dogs they saw in the Parade" the town may well want to head off trouble and will buckle to the idiots. If you must use a pinch collar, put a larger then normal, not longer, just thicker, bandanna over it.

All of this articles facts hold true for a person taking their dog to schools, churches, ect for demos or visits too or really, any time you are out in public with your dog.....you represent us all.

One more thing; Horse poop......dogs love it, try to walk around it and/or be ready to correct your dog. Because yes, even the most sophisticated of the dogs, the best dressed, and the very well trained titled dog....will eat it, right their in front of the whole town <grin> thus, the training collar.

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